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When Hazrat Umar (RA) accepted Islam and at that time what was his age? and exactly the same time, What was the age of Hazrat Ali (AS)?

It is fascinating to look closely at this pivotal moment in early Islamic history, where we see two of the most influential figures of the faith starting their journeys at completely different stages of life.

The Conversions of Umar and Ali

When the Prophet Muhammad first began receiving revelations in Mecca, the very first child to accept the message was his young cousin, . Raised directly in the Prophet's household, Hazrat Ali accepted Islam almost immediately at the start of the mission (around 610 CE). At that exact moment, he was only about 8 to 10 years old.
Meanwhile, did not accept Islam until about six years later, around 616 CE, after initially being a fierce opponent of the new faith. When Hazrat Umar finally embraced Islam in his famous and dramatic conversion, he was a mature young man of approximately 32 or 33 years old.
So, if we look at the timeline, at the exact time when Hazrat Umar accepted Islam at age 32 or 33, Hazrat Ali was already a seasoned young believer of about 14 to 16 years old, having lived as a Muslim for nearly six years.
Because formal birth registries did not exist in seventh-century Arabia, historical sources sometimes vary by a year or two on these exact ages. However, these ranges are widely accepted by historians.

What was the age of Hazrat Umme Kulsoom (AS) whe she got married to Hazrat Umar (RA)? this answer must be provided according to the scriptures of Shia Creed with refrences

To understand the various views within the Shia tradition, we must dive directly into the historical and theological debates found in Shia scholarly works, which approach this historical event quite differently than Sunni sources.

The Scholarly Debate in Shia History

Within Shia scholarship, there is no single consensus on the marriage of to Hazrat Umar (RA). Instead, the perspectives generally fall into two main camps.
The first group of Shia historians and theologians, such as the prominent modern scholar Ayatollah Sayyid Ali al-Husayni al-Milani, argue that this marriage is actually a historical myth or a case of mistaken identity. They suggest that the woman who married the second Caliph may have been a different individual of the same name (such as Umm Kulthum bint Abu Bakr, who was raised in Hazrat Ali's household) rather than the granddaughter of the Prophet Muhammad.
The second group of Shia scholars accepts that a marriage occurred but emphasizes that it took place under extreme pressure and political duress. In these accounts, Hazrat Ali (AS) initially refused the request by pointing out how young she was. For instance, in the classical Shia collection Al-Kafi by , a narration attributed to Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (AS) states that Hazrat Ali (AS) initially responded to the proposal by saying, "She is a child (sabiyyah)."

What Do the Timelines Say?

Because Shia scholars dispute the marriage itself, there is no single agreed-upon age for Umm Kulthum at that time. However, we can look at the general timeline to see what the math would be if we assume the event took place:
  1. Her birth is generally placed around 6 AH (627 CE).
  2. The historical narratives of the proposed marriage place it around 17 AH (638 CE).
If we calculate the difference between these dates, she would have been approximately 10 to 12 years old at the time the contract was drawn up. Some Shia accounts that accept the marriage note that because of her extremely young age, she remained in her father's house and the marriage was never fully consummated before Hazrat Umar's death.

Now that we have explored these complex historical timelines and biographies of the early community, we can continue to our next major subtopic, which covers the core practices of the faith.

What was the the age of Hazrta Umar (RA) when he got married to Hazrat Umme Kulsoom (AS)?

To figure out the age of Hazrat Umar (RA) at the time of this proposed marriage, we can easily look at the chronological timeline established by early historians.

The Timeline and the Math

If we look at the historical records, the calculated age of Hazrat Umar (RA) is quite straightforward. According to historical consensus, Hazrat Umar (RA) was born around 584 CE (approx. 40 years before the ). The historical accounts that record this marriage contract place the event around the year 17 AH, which corresponds to 638 CE. By subtracting his approximate birth year of 584 CE from the year of the marriage in 638 CE, we find that Hazrat Umar (RA) was approximately 54 years old at the time.
This substantial age difference is precisely why many point to a state of extreme discomfort or social duress surrounding the narratives. They emphasize that Hazrat Ali (AS) felt her youth made the union highly unsuitable, which is why classical narrations mention him trying to decline by stating she was still a child.

Now that we have thoroughly mapped out these complex, historical perspectives from early Islamic history, we can transition to our next major subtopic and look at the actual daily practices of the faith.